, and he had used this to impress people with his prophetic mystique.. Although their parents will reign over them and be the leaders of the last-day church, their children will possess the Spirit without measure. {Mal 4:5,6} And one of our prayers is to bring the Spirit of Elijah so we can reveal to you your Papa. There is only one God man, the God who became man. The 1970s reveal the great teachers of God and they began to raise up. It is apparent that what Jones teaches is inserting his own ideas into passages to promote his own agenda- Latter Rain. , Jan. 31, 2002). , Dr. William Nolen dedicated an entire chapter to his investigation of Kuhlmans healing crusades. Full updates of Bonnie Jones' and or Lyn Kost's ministry available at. He said, Oh, were collecting those who are foreknown and predestinated for the end-times, for you see, theyll be the best of all the seed thats ever been. Yesterday a precious family member, Viola Jones, passed away at her home near Statesville, North Carolina. More red Flags MB:When Bob first walked in the office on March 7, 1983, he said, Ive come to get you to believe in a movement that is worldwide and that is going to touch the nations of the earth withsuch power and glory that it will go far beyond the book of Acts. So we realize that; so whats our reaction to that? After having studied the truly bizarre, unscriptural nature of so many of Bob Jones beliefs, teachings, visions, dreams, and out-of-body experiences, we are in total agreement with Mikes original, gut-level assessment. ALLEGED SUPERNATURAL EXPERIENCES IN HIS EARLY DAYS (which had a reverse effect of causing him to run wholeheartedly into sin) BJ: =Bob Jones ..When I was about nine years old, I was walking down a dusty road in the middle of summer in Arkansas. And anyway, the guy comes in feeling the oil and feeling the wind, Uh huh, uh huh, this is it, this is it. And I remember his first words, as he goes, Ive seen you. And I said, And Ive seen you. And he said, Yeah, I thought you probably would. And what I meant was that I had had a prophecy about a false man that was coming. A prominent figure in the New Apostolic Reformatio n, Jones was the most controversial of the ' Kansas City Prophets .'. In a Facebook post by Pastor Vlad Savchuk, he shared in detail about the revival happening on the Asbury campus. . Bob Jones was the eleventh of twelve children born to William Alexander and Georgia Creel Jones. Every miracle, sign and wonder that has ever been in the Bible theyll move in it consistently. g.The sad irony is that so many of those same mystical experiences and revelations have no support whatsoever from Scripture, and many defy the scriptural record entirely. So much of what is called prophecy is not truly prophecy. So we are too immature to have prophets be right all the time? We ask You to mature it. We dont take it as serious in the early days as we will in the days to come(Media Spotlight- THE RESTORATION OF APOSTLES AND PROPHETS AND THE KANSAS CITY- VINEYARD CONNECTION byAlbert James Dager). 3, No. Besides that, he was never a member. (Testimony Letter 11-Full report below). Visitation will begin at 5pm. Prophecy Of Bob Jones Is Happening. I did caution Mike Bickle about the strangeness of the prophet at the time. At the Lakeland service with Todd Bentley, Bob Jones explains the churches future:What is the Lord doing? But from that time forth my hands worked funny. But from that time forth my hands worked funny. According to Bob Jones when he was 13- The first time I ever seen the white horse was when an angel called Gabriel was riding. Jones, 63, was removed from his church duties for an undetermined amount of time, Gulliksen said. AGE 15 LATE 30S TOTAL ABANDONMENT TO SIN/ DEMONIC VISIONS AND POSSESSION BJ: From 15 to in my late 30sI tried to find peace in sin and I searched for it in every bar and every fist fight, every gambling game I could get into. (F88, p.3) MB: The story is real in-depth.. .he really got himself into some heavy stuff of sin and just always in Street fights and bar fights and beatin people up and drinkin alcohol, and then some other areas toopretty heavy duty in (F88, p. 4) BJ: . These type of descriptions and non- conformity to the Bibles Jesus certainly raises the suspicion of a another Jesus, or spirit at work. Christ can only return when the people of God have reached that place of unity in which the Spirit and the Bride can say, Come (p. 73). Bob refused counsel, refused to be under subjectionand took off for other churches where he would be free to make his predictions. Box 838 Pineville, NC 28134-0838. You havent seen anything. Two or three days later a man run off the road and was killed. Ismiled and said nothing, I even made several attempts at unity only to find that I had been prophesied over by another of the resident prophets. . Bob Jones spiritual experiences are extraordinary to say the least. Of course, I had no way to interpret that. . Help me, Lord Jesus. And, The labourer is worthy of his reward" (1 Timothy 5:18). With the proud prophetic promise of revival promoted, promulgated, and proclaimed across the charismatic stage, with the Chiefs Superbowl win, this is a good time to dismantle more prophetic deception! This full maturity is what is called the Manifested Sons of God doctrine that came from the Latter Rain Heresy. Now the Lord is saying that before the apple tree blooms this spring . We trust that your Christian honesty will preserve the integrity of this policy. [!] But a lot of people have got healed by it, too. And the Lord was tellin me what they were doin. The more you understand the reality and the presence, the more you can acceptthe presence of these healing violet flame angels,the closer, they will come and the greater their strength and power ofthat sacred fire wrapped around you (I Am healing decrees, Saint Germaine press 1976 p.6). , September 2008). In 2020, GOD TV reported about Bob Jones prophecy on the Kansas City Chiefs. Their 2020 super bowl win made headlines as it was a historical moment for the Chiefs as it had been 50 long years since their last championship. 2:10-12). I have only listened to a few of the tapes from Kansas City Fellowship, and read only a few of their publications. So I was settled then. Theyll move in the power that Christ did. I whole heartedly agree with all gospel action, but signs are not being scrutinized, prophecies and many prophets are not being examined. "Bob Jones had heard from God that the chiefs would go to the Super Bowl and win it. The author was led to Christ by a Pentecostal in 1973 and has researched the movement ever since. Bob Jones In 1991, Kansas City prophet Bob Jones' tapes were removed from the Vineyard Ministries International product catalog after he admitted to "a moral failure" . . Youre going to see revelations of our Papa like youve never seen before. So they were killed, and even in their funeral I brought another wordit kept coming, and it was(Id heard the church brag just before that, Ten years we havent had a death.) Oh, dont get into pride or brag. 2, 1993 appearance in Columbus, Ohio, indicating that he would be sitting in seat 4C (first class) on both legs of that trip, and the air fare would be $728.17 Likewise, his October, 1992 trip to Cleveland cost the Ministry $855, and again, he was sitting in the first cabin.18 But . Notes: https://bit.ly/3S4DEMT #bobjones #paulcain #endoftime We are not to base our ministry on prophetic words, but on our relationship with Jesus and His W. And I requested Bob that for at least a month that he sit quietly and be still. He met Jesus face to face as there were two lines there; One going to everlasting destruction and one leading to eternal life. . We discuss how God led him to this decision, his thoughts and feelings behind the decision and we also answer all the questions everyone has about . All of these highly unusual exp.s, so far are not necessarily disqualifying factors, but need to be discerned, and are suspect extra-Biblical phenomenon. 3) Turn from . Immortalization for a Melchizedek Priesthood? Unless the LORD builds the house, those who build it labor in vain. Ps.127:1 According to the grace of God given to me, like a skilled master builder I laid a foundation, and someone else is building upon it. Prophet Bob Jones Removing Blockages (watch this witchcraft and the generalizations with no Scripture at all), Bob Jones died- God sent him back from heavens door- 1. At the same time, it was clear Paul was a gifted prophet. We already know what this means by Jones teachings- that the church will produce little God/men, who are all Melchizedik priests,sounds like the Latter Rain plan. Your email address will not be published. Mike Bickle asked him in a dialogue You say that you saw the throne room? . And I warned them, but they really got upset the last time I warned them. He will be here the rest of his life. (P88, p. 4 5). The people and pastor grew weary of this continuous wearisome foretelling of earthquakes and tragedies coming until I, as pastor and shepherd of the sheep, asked Bob Jones to come with me and another pastor to my study to counsel him. . She said Bob was wearing a beautiful smile and the glory of the Lord shone on his face. None of these are recorded in Scripture but they do manifest themselves among those in the New Age/ Occult. Savchuk, Vlad [@vladhungrygen]. I dont think Im changing his words by stating an observation- since he is still living and so many signs and wonders occur at the meetings, we are left to assume he took the deal that allowed the devils to move quite freely. his healing power came when he was struck by lightning: The part that is true is that Bob had been prophesying and reporting his dreams and predictions for years in Kansas City. The show reported that Tiltons ministry threw thousands of unread prayer requests into the trash even though Tilton claimed to pray over them. Bob's wife Bonnie continues to expand upon Bob's message: "Did you learn to Love ?", and reveals the heart of The father for the coming . He has since gone to be with the Lord. Header Images: Kansas City Chiefs [@chiefs]. to one aspiring to public ministry. Bob Jones, who operated in prophetic ministry for more than four decades, has gone home to be with the Lord. I said, Five or ten a night! He said, Oh, yes, all the time. And a ball of fire danced all over that basement, and didnt hurt me. Evangelistic career. And the Spirit of Elijah falls upon prophets. Jones even states There is a ministry after the five-fold called the ministry of perfection the Melchisedek Priesthood . "For the scripture saith, Thou shalt not muzzle the ox that treadeth out the corn. On the side leading to destruction, the people were dressed in whatever they worshipped as their God. Every sign and wonder thats ever been will be many times in the last days.They themselves; will be that generation thats raised up to put death itself underneath their feet and to glorify Christ in every way. Like reading words in alphabet soup this prophet can make a spiritual rhyme on a dime. Read carefully the account, given by Mike Bickle and Bob Jones, during interviews in the fall of 1988:BJ:= Bob JonesViola and I were involved in a church in 76. It went like this: Euossa, Euossa, use rela sema calah mala kanah leulla ssage nalan. Bob Jones and Mike Bickle are two peas in a pod when it comes to non- biblical prophetic experiences and revelation. Its not have the faith in God, it is to have the faith of God. This angel is supposedly at work with freshfires revival meetings. and Bob had given himself fully to this group and he was so depressed because this group rejected him and then he called in about some sin in the leadershipsome immoralityand they threw him out of the church. concerning this mans behavior, but to my horror the leadership there began to put a great deal of stock in his prophesies. This understanding is so important that we have devoted Section III entirely to giving a history of Bob Jones background, providing examples of his bizarre experiences, and establishing his significance to the Movement. We need to remember that signs and wonders alone in no way assure that the source is God. Prophecy is increasing in purity, but there is a still a long way to go for those who walk in this ministry. I saw him a couple of times in the 70s, I didnt understand what it meant, I would just see the white horse(Mike Bickle interjects) The white horse always speaks in Bobs visionsIn his vision it speaks of the corporate purpose that God is bringing to pass (ibid. And you know there is about a list of 12 people that are the problems why you are here. Sharing Policy: No one in my background had ever heard the audible voice of God. There was a guide, that he identified as the angel of the Lord who protected him from danger by standing between him and the throne by filtering the rays from God as if the angel was like red sunglasses. He said that he later understood that this was Gods way of calling and commissioning him for their new important earth-changing work that could go out from Americas Midwest, 2. . The following story, which is often told by Mike Bickle to give credibility to Bob Jones as a prophet, is a complete fabrication of facts. Dr. Bob Jones III joins me in my office to discuss his upcoming marriage to Dr. Karen Rowe. Like Daniel who functioned at an incredible level, Bob has often told leaders their dreams and experiences, as well . Another pastor in Kansas City, went to Mike with concerns about Bob, when he learned that Bob was now at Mikes church, because Bob had formerly been with him. A memo dated Nov. 10, 1992 listed Bob's itinerary for an Apr. And it was like Him and. Jones explains to us that his healing power came when he was struck by lightning: It was about 76. The exorcism didnt last. your children will be moving into the ministries of Perfection . Really you are so out of line you must be on a island, no where in the Word does a profit submit to anyone but God. Go kill them or forgive them (F88, p. 6)EDITORS NOTE: He does eventually forgive them. Not to be concerned, the more practice they have inside the church the better they will get at it. document.getElementById( "ak_js_1" ).setAttribute( "value", ( new Date() ).getTime() ); Create a free website or blog at WordPress.com. Naturally I rejected the prophesy as being false & was in turn rejected by them for being false. And you can take a little of that fire and impart it wherever it is needed. Brother Cloud lives in South Asia where he has been a church planting missionary since 1979. Id never seen one, but he looked as close as I could come up with. And, Jones other ludicrous prophecies are beyond ridiculous and its incomprehensible that ANYONE in their right mind would follow these two men. OPH ,p. 2) And the reason I get talking about BobBob is so integral in the first 18 months of our history, because the Lord ordained it. you may not believe this, but its true, where. This is my Yes to Papa God. That certain overcomers become immortal on the earth before Christ even returns. . Bob goes into great detail about his life b. Looks like we have our future all mapped out and Jesus has told Jones he is not coming for the church in the next 50 years. His purpose for this people, in a hum-an sense, had some of its roots back in the hills of Arkansas when Bob was, ah, a young boy. Furthermore, it has come to my attention thathe prophesied that seven young men would die and that the pastor and church would not listen to him. Hinn also admitted that he and his wife had been separated for years. seven young people under 30 died in a 6-week period. what did it look like? Jones- It looked like gold and it looked like light and it was a light not like the light you see here which is artificial, he responded, adding that the light, the glory of the Lord, frightened him. Joseph Jones -- Joseph Jones is a little known Kansas City prophet who was friends with Bob Jones and was involved in the early prayer and fasting that set the direction of the movement. And when I first met him, I couldnt hardly comprehend that. Consider what some of the statements mean in relation to the Latter Rain teaching of Jones and associates and to the Bible. Papas saying, Come with more. And it would begin a wave at Washington, and it would come on down and go through the whole United States ". So according to their end time prophetic army they have a base 10-20% accuracy level. in May 2007 included statements by former Without Walls staff members who testified that the Whites had shifted their focus to money and fame. Bob Jones and his bride, Mary Gaston Stollenwerck Jones, June 1908Jones's family was devoutly Christian . For no one can lay a foundation other than that which is laid, which is Jesus Christ. I had two small strokes in my brain (Robert Tilton. They will give instruction in the effect of colour in the healing of disease and particularly the efficiency of violet light in lessening human ills and in curing those physical plane sicknesses which originate in the etheric body. I felt a strong uneasiness of the Holy Spirit when Mike first came to town and came by to visit me in my office. It is this story that we will focus on at the outset of this article. February 27, 2023 . BOB. BJ: I didnt have trouble seeing the devils at alland this devil come and he said, Everybody has just mistreated you all your life. I have, however, heard from quite a number of our people who used to attend the Fellowship. Did I have enough time? And there was a man that walked beside me and he said, You can look now, Bob, and see and I looked down and my robe was like crystal light (Mike Bickle with Bob Jones,Visions and Revelations, transcript, series of five tapes from the fall of 1988. In the early 80's God said He was going to change the Soviet Union. The Chiefs Super Bowl win is 33 days into the year and 333 to go because it's a leap year. But he just cant seem to get the accuracy level past first grade prognostics. . The police who visited their apartment following their deaths reported finding their Bibles open on the table from their quiet time that morning.Bob Jones did not bring a prophetic word at that funeral about additional people dying. Incredible as it seems, Mike Bickle was, however, soon won over by supernatural signs, to believe that Bob Jones must be from God. Since that time he has seen many, many times five to ten visions and dreams a night. , April 11, 2009). Fact: God does not choose one of His saints to kill His saints. .And now my government is in place, and in a time of great stress I shall bring forth my next step, for Toronto was a step, Brownsville was another step; My next step will be my glory, and signs like you have never seen before. - Receive these reports by email Because the Lord told Bob that he was to come to help establish clarity and faith in the hearts of those young people so that when they believed, then there would be a whole new ability for the Lord to work in our midstwhen we believed the things about this movement. There was a guide, that he identified as the angel of the Lord who protected him from danger by standing between him and the throne by filtering the rays from God as if the angel was like red sunglasses. He said that he later understood that this was Gods way of calling and commissioning him for their new important earth-changing work that could go out from Americas Midwest. in July 1985, was the founder of the Word of Faith Satellite Network, host of Success-N-Life broadcasts, and founder and pastor of the Word of Faith World Outreach Center in Farmers Branch, Texas. Funeral arrangements may be sent to: Reins-Sturdivant 270 . Little or no Scripture is ever mentioned. Get a daily devotional and encouraging 2-3minute video direct to your inbox. magazine observed that in just a few months, members of his new congregation were dancing in the aisles in their new facility, and the talented young preacher was back on the conference circuit, no questions asked. *This is a common, yet dangerous, erroneous mindset many people in the prophetic/apostolic movement entertain. The final section of the book answers the question: Why are people deluded by Pentecostal-Charismatic error? David and Tami Lee, former Pentecostals, after reviewing a section of the book said: Very well done! Its called the place of divine health. https://thegovernmentalgoalsofgodtvpart2.wordpress.com/2008/09/06/god-tv-and-the-kcp-bob-jones-mike-bickle-john-paul-jackson-paul-cain-and-the-ernie-gruen-report-exposing-them-below/, Bob Jones and Mike Bickle channel demonic revelations. It had really grown and looked a lot like Christ. My hands turned blue, and then they turned purple. Four years later, at age thirteen, he claims he was escorted to the throne room of God in heaven (like Cerullo and others). The pastor finally took another brother with him and asked Bob not to speak out in the servicesto be quiet in services for a period of 30 days. Being interviewed by Rick Joyner , he says that God and the angels have their hands cuffed, and it's up to us to speak things into existence because God . Heres another good one.. . Bob Jones ProphecyKC Chiefs Wins Super Bowl & Revival Sweeps Asbury Campus, Golf Champion Chris Kirk Thanks God And Sobriety After Major Victory, Revival Continues As It Hits Another Secular University. Jones claimed to have had 100 "open visions" giving him revelation about this movement. One of the last things Bob told Bonnie was, "I took it as far as I could, now you take it on in." And in thy name cast out devils and in thy name done many wonderful works? Do You Know These 14 Hebrew Names of God? Every sign and wonder thats ever been will be many times in the last days. He said, There will be a resistance and a controversy. Sir Robert 'Bob' Jones now New Zealand's largest private office building owner in Wellington and Auckland, and with substantial holdings in Sydney, totalling in excess of a billion dollars is a property investor, author and former politician, who has written fiction as well as books on property investment, selections of his newspaper and magazine columns, and reminiscences of . What's more, the prophecy said it would be a sign of a revival coming to America. Do you need a new Bible or Christian Gifts? This is very troubling! . (Mike Bickle with Bob Jones,Visions and Revelations, transcript, series of five tapes from the fall of 1988.). Then he said a strange word. I was inside I didnt have my wires grounded in the basement down there, and I grabbed ahold of the refrigerator, and lightning hit the wires outside, and a great blue flame came in. You are also welcome to use excerpts from the articles in your writings, in sermons, in church bulletins, etc. Don't let Bob's legacy die! Hebrews 1: IN TIMES PAST, God spoke to the fathers through the prophets. Bob Jones a Tail of a Prophet And a lot of people have had a lot of good laughs about it. As such we prayerfully rely on the support of our readers/listeners. Bob Jones experienced correction., not rejection. Bob is so integral in the first 18 months of our history, The grandiose vision of the Movement was, in fact, expanded by a whole series of visions that Bob Jones supposedly had between 1974 and 1983. Even using a relatively simply model I suspect it would be quite easy to predict this outcome . Incorruptible flesh will they have, andthe lightning in their handswill be the hiding place of their power(Bob Jones, tape,Visions and Revelations,1988). The prophesy was that my church at that time would fail. Below you will find a handful of new images from last night, Nigh 43 of the Florida Revival and Healing Outpouring. Hinn admitted to being with White in Rome and having a friendship and an inappropriate relationship with her, but both parties claimed there was no affair. - www.wayoflife.org. This is right out of the Latter Rain/manifest sons of God manual. The tape was an Oral Roberts sermon I came up off the sofa, shouting, IM HEALED! My wife leaped out of her chair and shouted, Hallelujah! For the next 30 minutes all we did was walk around the house shouting thanks to God and proclaiming my healing (Jamie Buckingham, My Summer of Miracles,. As told above, Bob out right lied about his warning prophecies, at Berean Baptist Church, and actually recounted two different stories, both lies, as the pastor of the church and another member, recounted what actually transpired. We're referring to the arrest of 30-year-old entertainment lawyer Benjamin Lawson Adams - a former graduate of Bob Jones Academy and a former student at Bob Jones University. Anytime God is going to start a fire, he starts it with lightning. He has been a major influence behind the new revival through Todd Bentley, a Toronto style copy. Two nights! I am in St. Louis pastoring, and a man namedAugustine Aculacomes through town. Our primary goal with the FBIS is to provide material to assist preachers in the edification and protection of the churches. The 2010 would reveal the faith of God. While in a time of praise, Bob saw an apple tree in full bloom. If Mikes ministry and vision was built upon false prophecy, as difficult as it may seem to acknowledge, Mikes labour was in vain. Bobby Conner was also on hand with David Hertzog and his wife Stephanie. I said, A movement? He said, Oh, the Lord told me you wouldnt know anything about it. Before the prophetic minister Bob Jones passed away in 2014, he released a prophetic word to Shawn Bolz. You stood before the Lord BJ: He was showing me a throne room and He was showing me a seat that I needed to sit in one dayand there was a guide that stood in front of me, and he was like red sunglasses (F88, p.2-3)/, http://www.bobjones.org/?zone=/unionactive/view_page.cfm&page= 2020202020Photos202620Bio 27s2020202020 Bob Jones Web Site, When only seven years old and walking on a dirt road in Arkansas; the Arch Angel Gabriel appeared to Bob Jones on a white horse and blew a double silver trumpet in his face. Home Secretary Suella Braverman has expressed her concern after police recorded a 'hate incident' at a school after pupils caused 'slight damage' to a copy of the Quran when it fell on the floor . Bob Jones, I must now say, in light of all of the over emphasized, untested signs, just assuming theyre from God, that Bob disqualified himself years ago, never submitting to correction, from the very beginning, even before he met Mike Bickle. Required fields are marked *. Weeks was also forced to move out of his $2.5 million country club estate. Asbury Campus Revival. It got dangerous. Change), You are commenting using your Twitter account. The Remnant Seed, a prophecy by Bob Jones at Hamilton, Ontario, March 1998: magazine said: About a year later, after the church had become affiliated with John Wimbers Vineyard network of churches, Jones admitted to a moral failure and was removed from his leadership position. Understanding The Holy Of Holies Inside The Temple. Bickle and Jones relate the story of an angel revealing that God would appear to Bickle and his brother in law and associate pastor Bob Scott in the form of another person named Don through a vision or dream to confirm Jones ministry. It was the devils. For information see: www.wayoflife.org/about/makeanoffering.html. This man was also a Christian in good standing, who was run off the road and killed. In 2006 Bob married Bonnie Kost, a gifted prophetic voice in her own right. When you hear of a prophets school and prophet meetings, or teaching others how to prophesy or giving personal prophecy that is not accurate all the time, think of this Scripture and what it has to say about this. What make this a concern is that Alice Bailey, a spokesperson for the New Age Movement, described violet (or purple) light as a catalyst for bringing about healing: [There are]four groups of angels that are bands of servers who are pledged to the service of the Christ [the New Age Christ, not Jesus], and their work is to contact man and to teach them along certain lines. and all the other doctors out there said, You might as well put him on the strong stuff: hes found a home.

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